vette dude Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 yeah, parish has the buil;t 80e in, along with a 4.8.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bseen Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 I anyone builts this shaft for the awd transfer case I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette dude Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 I anyone builts this shaft for the awd transfer case I want one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, when i get some curent shafts, i will be building/drawing them, so i will try and keep this poost updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmalibuss Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Well I'm guessing no one in here has contacted New Venture Gear and asked them dirrectly because it sounds like you guys are all going to be suppirzed when I tell you that you can buy the part you need from New Venture Gear or pick one up from a junk yard! (My question to NVG) I'm curious if this transfer case is made to mate up with the 4l80e trans or if there is an adapter so it can be made to mate to the 4l80e trans? Thanks a lot, Jon (NVG's answer) It would need a new input gear. (my next question) Is that input gear for mating the 4l80e to the nv149 transfer case something you guys would sell or would it be the same gear as in say like a 2500hd 4x4 chevy truck with a 4l80e? (NVG answer) It would be the same gear as in say like a 2500hd 4x4 chevy truck with a 4l80e. This info was provided to me by ([email protected]) Please let me know if this helps you guys I have big plans such as a twin turbo 408 stroker with a 4l80e and I may soon have good connections with NVG. JON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 That is very interesting. Kurt (427) told me he got his one off piece from new venture and that it was definitely not an available part. Someone hurry up and try it -- there's still time for me to switch to an FLP built 80 I spoke with Chuck @ FLP -- he was relucant to comment, because he says he hasn't really looked into it a whole lot. His main focus atm is building an output shaft that is so strong it won't break so that none of us need 80es Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalls54 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 i have heard npg made the shaft. but it was only for specialty places that make like concept rids for gm. i havn't yet contacted them my self but mabey would be a good idea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 one question, are we NR8, MN8 or NR4? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Our transfercase is RPO NP3 and our transmission is M32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette dude Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Well I'm guessing no one in here has contacted New Venture Gear and asked them dirrectly because it sounds like you guys are all going to be suppirzed when I tell you that you can buy the part you need from New Venture Gear or pick one up from a junk yard! (My question to NVG) I'm curious if this transfer case is made to mate up with the 4l80e trans or if there is an adapter so it can be made to mate to the 4l80e trans? Thanks a lot, Jon (NVG's answer) It would need a new input gear. (my next question) Is that input gear for mating the 4l80e to the nv149 transfer case something you guys would sell or would it be the same gear as in say like a 2500hd 4x4 chevy truck with a 4l80e? (NVG answer) It would be the same gear as in say like a 2500hd 4x4 chevy truck with a 4l80e. This info was provided to me by ([email protected]) Please let me know if this helps you guys I have big plans such as a twin turbo 408 stroker with a 4l80e and I may soon have good connections with NVG. JON <{POST_SNAPBACK}> but it is not a gear we need, it is a shaft... are the two transfer cases the same, with different internals??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 (NVG answer)It would be the same gear as in say like a 2500hd 4x4 chevy truck with a 4l80e. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I haven't physically taken the cases apart and compared input gears, but I have looked through the tech manuals for them. I'm just about positive that the 32 spline input isn't going to work from one of the other tcases. The following pic shows the input shafts from the 149 (our SS case), the 246 (plain autotrac case), and the 263 (auto HD case). The 263 has only 32 spline input shafts while the 246 can have either the 27 or 32 spline shafts. I've colored the shafts BLUE in the picture. OK - Our 149 case is single speed while the others have a high and low range. The input shaft on them is connected to a planetary assembly, which I have colored PINK in the pictures. This planetary allows the transfer case to stay in 1:1 ratio (hi gear) or switch to 2.72:1 (low gear). Since we dont have the planetary gear, our input shaft physically mates up differently and looks different from the pictures. Thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Gotta love BigTex! Those pictures are awesome. I don't think any of those shafts are compatible with the other cases. It comes full circle to what everyone was telling me a couple of months ago -- No easy fix -- the only option is custom machine work. These pictures should help Vette Dude alot. Nice job Richard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette dude Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 big tex, is the shaft a complete piece, or is the input splin detachable in some way??? where did u find the service manuals? do you have any information or know of a place where i could find more drawings with some dimensions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmalibuss Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks for the pictures BigTex I will e-mail them to Ken who replied to my question and see what he has o say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I'd like to know what NVG has to say. These pics were out of a set of GM service documents. They aren't very detailed not do they have any measurements. But even without super details, you can tell the 149 case is different. I see a couple of different options here: 1. Buy a hardened output shaft for a 4WD 4L80E, then have a machine shop machine it down to fit the current input shaft of the NVG 149. Maybe have the final product heat treated or cryo treated to strengthin it up. I think the output shaft would be easier to get, and still strong afterwards. 2. Buy a input shaft for the NVG 149 and have it opened up to accept the 32 spline shaft of the existing 4L80E. I think this would be more difficult and probably drop the strength of the input shaft afterwards. 3. Shorten the 4L80E output shaft by several inches. Have a machine shop build an intermediate shaft that accepts the 32 spline output of the 80E and changes it to a 27 spline output. If you do talk to NVG, ask them the specs on their NV 124 and NV 125 transfer cases. They are listed as AWD cases but are rated to handle over 1000 more torque than our 149 case. I can't find any more info on them. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette dude Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 richard, do you have any ideas where i could find drawings of the parts with dimensions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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