Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Solution to Lowering AWD SS


  • Please log in to reply
19 replies to this topic

#1 kaze_v8

kaze_v8

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 489 posts
  • Name:Erick
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, Tx.
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2004
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 23 June 2015 - 06:06 PM

So as some have said before, I just might have the lowest AWD SS around, simply because I cannot seem to find any logical reason to get rid of AWD.

Anyways, after lowering my truck "4/5" potentially lower than that, simply because I used lowering keys in the front. I recently replaced both axles in front, and about a month later they blew again, except both this time.

 

Started doing some research and jumped from idea to idea, as I was close to buying some 2500$ axles, to using some lousy axle spacers, even trying to lengthen my axles, to finally doing some research and finding out that NNBS front CV axles, are about 1.5 inches longer, and are a direct fit on our trucks. 

 

Pic for reference:

 

15640251_large.jpg

 

So im not sure if anyone had ever mentioned this before, but I figured it would be nice to share with those who have always had to settle with a 3 inch drop in the front.

 

I will be swapping in axles this weekend, and seeing if I finally found a solution to my problems.

From what I read, these axles are direct fit, and even have better angles than NBS CV axles.

Anyone whos tried this feel free to chime in. Cant wait to install mine.


Edited by kaze_v8, 23 June 2015 - 06:08 PM.

  • 0
Projects:
"La Lusitana" 04 LS2 Silverado SS (Under Construction)- Weekend Warrior
"El Moro" 90 300zx TT - Project/Weekend Beast
"El Alazan" 96 240sx VH45 Supercharged - Project/Track&Street Beater

#2 that1dood

that1dood

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 207 posts
  • Name:erick
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Charleston
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Victory Red
  • Year:2005
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 23 June 2015 - 06:21 PM

I hope this works out. Anxiously waiting to here back with your report
  • 0

#3 cmoney23

cmoney23

    *Elite SS Member*

  • Supporting Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,976 posts
  • Name:chad
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Avon, IN
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Arrival Blue
  • Year:2003
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 23 June 2015 - 07:35 PM

If that works that's awesome! Keep us posted.


  • 0

Signature2_zps13c57dbd.jpg
Corsa Sport cat-back exhaust, 22" reps, 305/40 tire,billet 5-piece grill, 35w 10K HID headlights, 35w 12k HID fogs, CAI, tonneau cover,

Full bed rug, Smoked tail lights, Smoked 3rd brake lights, Djm 3/4 drop kit, belltech street performance shocks all the way around,

Updated Guage cluster w/ led's, Shopman bowtie, Clear headlights & bumper lights, 20% tint, SilveradoSS.com Rear Window sticker
 


#4 jovanny

jovanny

    Veteran SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 936 posts
  • Name:jovanny
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:oklahoma city
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Victory Red
  • Year:2003
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 23 June 2015 - 10:25 PM

I bought those 2500$ cvs  Hopefully thats a cheaper option


  • 0

03 SSS , Lowered and a little something under the hood

 

Sig Pic removed. Too large per site rules 700x200


#5 Akslowroller

Akslowroller

    *Elite SS Member*

  • Supporting Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,033 posts
  • Name:Harley
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fairbanks
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2005
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 24 June 2015 - 01:34 AM

Yes keep us posted. I have been wanting to go lower
  • 0

#6 MARTYW

MARTYW

    *Elite SS Member*

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,919 posts
  • Name:Marty W
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TN
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2003
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:01 AM

That is good to hear.  I hope this is a good solution for us.  


  • 0

hood4.JPG


2003 SSS, AWD, smoked tails and 3rd brake light, billet bowtie, 5% tint, ARE bedcover, Husky floor liners, K&N CAI, Flowmaster DI/DO, Custom SS AirBag/Steering wheel, Instrument cluster LEDs with Escalade bezel, Shopman Bowtie, Goodmark cowl hood, Pioneer AVH-P8400BH, and much more to come!

In the works: Antenna delete, DJM 3/4 drop w/ Belltech SP shocks waiting for install, chin spoiler awaiting install, Brake Duct chrome overlays, Carriage works 5 piece grill,

Future: Corsa exhaust, T/A differentail cover, Amber deletes in headlights, ARH long tubes, Chrome 20" Reps, Custom Tune


#7 wantaSSS

wantaSSS

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:mpls,mn
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2005
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:54 AM

looks like a beefier inner joint also?


  • 0

 KB RACING TURBO KIT, HOLLEY HI RAM, LS3 T.B., 80LB DEKAS, HOLLEY FPR., 8AN FEED 6 RETURN. 450 PUMP. FLT LEVEL 6 , 2800 PI TRIPLE DISK, TRICKFLOW VAPOR KIT, MIGHTY MOUSE CATCH CAN, HYDROBOOST .  :pimp:


#8 kaze_v8

kaze_v8

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 489 posts
  • Name:Erick
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, Tx.
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2004
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 24 June 2015 - 09:56 AM

I bought those 2500$ cvs  Hopefully thats a cheaper option

How are those axles holding up? I almost jumped on them as I figured I want to push some serious power, and didn't want to have to be worrying about axles in the future.

 

Ill keep you guys updated im actually pretty excited about this.


  • 0
Projects:
"La Lusitana" 04 LS2 Silverado SS (Under Construction)- Weekend Warrior
"El Moro" 90 300zx TT - Project/Weekend Beast
"El Alazan" 96 240sx VH45 Supercharged - Project/Track&Street Beater

#9 pepz559

pepz559

    SS Newbie

  • Member
  • 10 posts
  • Name:jose
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:fresno
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Victory Red
  • Year:2004
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 01 July 2015 - 01:20 AM

How are those new axles holding up?
Are you alive bro? LOL JK JK!
Keep us posted cause we all would love to lower the AWD SS

Edited by pepz559, 01 July 2015 - 01:23 AM.

  • 0

#10 NORCAL SS

NORCAL SS

    SS LOWERING GURU

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,480 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:San Francisco
  • Owns:TBSS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2007
  • Drivetrain:2WD

Posted 01 July 2015 - 06:31 PM

i use the djm 3 inch arms with belltech spindles. 5 inch drop.  When you use keys and spindles tweeks angle to much


  • 0

 

 WWW.TBSSOWNERS.COM/STORE

 

FOR YOUR SILVERADO SS LOWERING/WHEEL NEEDS

SUPPORTING THE SSS TRUCKS SINCE LATE 2002 

 

 

2016 Z06 WITH Z07 OPTION- CORSA X PIPE/LG DROP SPINDLES/ 18X5 FRONT AND 18X12.5 FORGELINES

 

2016 ESCALADE- WHIPPLE 2.9 AT 7.5 PSI BOOST 565 RWHP AND 573 RWTQ/CUSTOM NORCAL SS 3/6  LOWERING KIT/WILWOOD 16" BRAKES/MAGNAFLOW 3.5 CAT BACK/26" DUB FUTURES. [email protected] on 295 30 26

 

2016 CHEVY SS- TRICKFLOW HEADS/CAM/NITROUS/FAST MANIFOLD/3600 CIRCLE D.... LIST GOES ON

 


#11 kaze_v8

kaze_v8

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 489 posts
  • Name:Erick
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, Tx.
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2004
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 13 July 2015 - 11:27 AM

Bad news gentlemen.

 

Sorry for the late reply, but my hypothesis was wrong.

I first tried putting the axles in by unbolting them, and slipping it in, and I needed about a 1/2" in order to slip the back of the boot in, and it didn't work.

Secondly I removed the top control arm so the spindle would come forward a little, and after getting the axle in, it became nearly impossible to put the ball joint back into place.

I tried to lift the rotor up all the way in order to simulate the extreme angle that the axles would be in and see if itll slip in that way, but te jack would ultimately lift the entire truck as opposed to lifting the hub assembly.

 

Maybe some of you guys might have a different approach, but realistically speaking I only need about an extra inch of length to solve the issue, but the axles are 1.5" longer.

I know they will work, because the guys who lift NBS trucks use this method as a solution, the problem is getting the axle in.

I figure its easier for the lifted truck guys because the suspension is dropped down, and when unbolted the suspension sags even more.

In other words, the angles theyre getting are the exact same as ours, except the other way.

 

Idk what you guys might think I can do.


Edited by kaze_v8, 13 July 2015 - 11:28 AM.

  • 0
Projects:
"La Lusitana" 04 LS2 Silverado SS (Under Construction)- Weekend Warrior
"El Moro" 90 300zx TT - Project/Weekend Beast
"El Alazan" 96 240sx VH45 Supercharged - Project/Track&Street Beater

#12 EXGM

EXGM

    *Elite SS Member*

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,029 posts
  • Name:Matt
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Charlotte, NC
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Victory Red
  • Year:2006
  • Drivetrain:2WD

Posted 13 July 2015 - 04:55 PM

Bad news gentlemen.
 
Sorry for the late reply, but my hypothesis was wrong.
I first tried putting the axles in by unbolting them, and slipping it in, and I needed about a 1/2" in order to slip the back of the boot in, and it didn't work.
Secondly I removed the top control arm so the spindle would come forward a little, and after getting the axle in, it became nearly impossible to put the ball joint back into place.
I tried to lift the rotor up all the way in order to simulate the extreme angle that the axles would be in and see if itll slip in that way, but te jack would ultimately lift the entire truck as opposed to lifting the hub assembly.
 
Maybe some of you guys might have a different approach, but realistically speaking I only need about an extra inch of length to solve the issue, but the axles are 1.5" longer.
I know they will work, because the guys who lift NBS trucks use this method as a solution, the problem is getting the axle in.
I figure its easier for the lifted truck guys because the suspension is dropped down, and when unbolted the suspension sags even more.
In other words, the angles theyre getting are the exact same as ours, except the other way.
 
Idk what you guys might think I can do.

Wonder if a machine shop could shorten it for you to make the length you need? If spline part too long I would think they could machine down.....
  • 0

#13 kaze_v8

kaze_v8

    Senior SS Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 489 posts
  • Name:Erick
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, Tx.
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2004
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 14 July 2015 - 08:33 AM

Wonder if a machine shop could shorten it for you to make the length you need? If spline part too long I would think they could machine down.....

Im gonna see how safe that is, to shave down the part that bolts to the front diff. The spline to the hubs are not the issue, theyre almost identical to the NBS axles.


  • 0
Projects:
"La Lusitana" 04 LS2 Silverado SS (Under Construction)- Weekend Warrior
"El Moro" 90 300zx TT - Project/Weekend Beast
"El Alazan" 96 240sx VH45 Supercharged - Project/Track&Street Beater

#14 duckrider

duckrider

    SS Newbie

  • Newbie
  • 3 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Black
  • Year:2003
  • Drivetrain:AWD

Posted 23 August 2015 - 12:49 AM

There is a company on ebay that sells the axles that are 1 inch longer than stock for $175 each,


  • 0

#15 1BAD2K

1BAD2K

    US A-Hole

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 3,411 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas
  • Owns:SS
  • Color:Silver Birch Metallic
  • Year:2006
  • Drivetrain:2WD

Posted 26 August 2015 - 01:08 AM

There is a company on ebay that sells the axles that are 1 inch longer than stock for $175 each,

Ad says it's an OEM remanufactured/modified part.
http://www.ebay.com/...181bb31&vxp=mtr
In the ad, it also makes it seem like you can choose .5" up to 2" extended length. Pretty cool!
  • 0
Current build: 2006 RCSB 4x4 - LS6, magnacharger, 4l80e, circle D, hydroboost, corsa, arh, beltech, coilovers, nvg149, baer+z06 upgrade, intro wheels... full on SS clone in the making.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users