canadianVRss Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Also if this is a good choice cam for me what would I need to upgrade to as far as springs and pushrods if needed I'd get some pushrods and springs good for .600" lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Been doing alot more searching around and texas speed recommended a 228r on 112lsa if I go with that cam would ls6 spring be enough lift for that cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebadmax Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Just get some PAC 1218s they are good for .600 lift. Or 1518 for .625 Edited March 19, 2014 by onebadmax (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 been reading also about it being a good idea to use dual spring setup for insurance incase a springs breaks the other spring can save you from a dropped valve? with a 228r .588 lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown 346 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 That is correct. I like the 918 dual beehive myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I been looking on texas speed and there prc 2.5 heads with the dual springs may what i end up going with just to answer all my questions and worries will the prc 2.5 heads work for now with my stock intake i will be using long tubes Edited March 19, 2014 by zaathur151 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC03SS Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 been reading also about it being a good idea to use dual spring setup for insurance incase a springs breaks the other spring can save you from a dropped valve? with a 228r .588 lift You really don't need dual springs. I put them on at first but took them out and went with singles. It's a piece of mind I guess to some. Single 918's are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Dual springs are not necessary with a 228R, too much unnecessary stress on the valvetrain...... +1 for PAC 1218's.... Edited March 19, 2014 by Fireman31 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 You really don't need dual springs. I put them on at first but took them out and went with singles. It's a piece of mind I guess to some. Single 918's are fine May i ask why you took them out and put singles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC03SS Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Dual springs are not necessary with a 228R, too much unnecessary stress on the valvetrain...... +1 for PAC 1218's.... This is what I was told. Just think your engine came with singles and that cam isn't a huge monster so no need unless it makes you feel better. These are just opinions. Feel free to do what you want with your truck. There are plenty of great springs avalible out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 This is what I was told. Just think your engine came with singles and that cam isn't a huge monster so no need unless it makes you feel better. These are just opinions. Feel free to do what you want with your truck. There are plenty of great springs avalible out there. True I can read all day and worry by self to death about broken springs or just pick a type and dont worry about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaathur151 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Im really leaning tords the PRC 2.5 heads with single beehive springs good durable valve train and saves me from having a machine shop rebuild my stock head's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC03SS Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sounds like a good plan. Good luck hope it all goes well for ya. Just take your time and make sure all parts will work together to get you the best possible results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 The one thing I enjoy most on this site are the parrot's. One person uses a cam and then posts that he likes it and 100 others will pick that same cam based on "research". At one time the 212/218 Comp Cam was the popular cam, then it was the 222/224 cam, GT2-3 for the blower guys, 228r later on, etc, etc, etc. The other funny thing with the same subject is how many give technical answers to posts and yet are only repeating information that they read from other posts. I wouldn't recommend a 228r for this truck for example since he doesn't want to change the converter or at least doesn't want alot of stall. I would recommend a cam no bigger than something like the 222/224 from Comp or the Trick Flow 220/224. Both of those really should have a converter upgrade, but at that size you could do a VJCX converter which can be had for a couple hundred dollars and will drive alot like stock yet. Comp also has a cam on the LSR grind that will work which is a 219/227 and will make more torque than both of the others. I would still do the converter swap though to really enjoy the cam swap more. The lift on the 222/224 is in the .56 range and can be ran with LS6 springs. They have a decently long life and should be changed about once every 100k or so, but will keep spring pressure down enough to help valve seat life as well as cam bearings. The Trick Flow cam is in the .58 lift range and should be ran with either 918 style spring or dual spring. The 918 springs have had a rough life with a poor reputation of breaking which is why the dual springs have come to be so popular. The beehive style spring makes more power by design and has less pressure put on the cam bearings making them a more popular choice for something more on the daily driver side of things. The LSR grind is well over .600 lift and really should be ran with a dual spring for longer life of the spring and protection of piston to valve contact in case of spring breakage. The dual springs will beat up the valvetrain a bit more and shorten cam bearing life a bit, but for big lift they are the way to go. As for the topic of headers, use what you have. Shorty headers do not make more torque than long tube headers in no way shape or form. Shorty headers designed properly will gain over manifolds, but will never make more hp or torque than a long tube header. If the heads are replaced on this LQ9 I would recommend going with a 243 casting to get the compression up. The compression raise will help the torque, hp, fuel milage, and smoothness of the idle. You will also need to change the injectors. The stock injectors from your truck will not be big enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Very well stated Zippy!! Edited March 20, 2014 by WICKEDOWESIX (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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