novanet Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 "Finally, 80% of the time on startup (warm only) I have about a half second of REAL nasty sounding pre-ignition (engine knock)" posted by novanet I have the same thing! Thanks for the reply vdrumright and supraman! You guys are a credit to the forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leupy Posted February 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Thanks lgetz and supraman...I should have known that muthas was the way to go...I know what I'll be doing tomorrow, cleanin' some leather seats... Rock on fellow SS'ers -Leupy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2opwr Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 The only thing that I have had done under warranty is having the entire truck wet sanded and buffed. It looks really awesome. I have looked at a lot of GM vehicles and almost all of them including vettes have orange peel. The service manager where I bought the truck said that it was normal and that the only reason he approved it is because it is a "limited production vehicle." I took it to 2 other dealers and they where not willing to do anything about it, they said it was normal. I tell you one thing...It is as slick as glass now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 The only thing that I have had done under warranty is having the entire truck wet sanded and buffed. It looks really awesome. I have looked at a lot of GM vehicles and almost all of them including vettes have orange peel. The service manager where I bought the truck said that it was normal and that the only reason he approved it is because it is a "limited production vehicle." I took it to 2 other dealers and they where not willing to do anything about it, they said it was normal. I tell you one thing...It is as slick as glass now! Heeeeyyyy, I like that Idea......I too have noticed the same thing, but never thought about getting anything done about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black03SS_NJ Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 If you look at the heated seat switches, you can turn on the bottom AND back or JUST the BACK. There is no way to turn on the bottom only. I think the people who think the bottom isn't working have the back only turned on. The rear part of the switch turns on the back only. the front part turns on the BOTH. Try it you will see what I mean. If you are confused,look at the little book in the glove box!! Took me a while to figure this out, the buttons are a little illogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 What exactly is orange peel? Is that something that would only show in black - mostly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leupy Posted February 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Orange peel (and I'm by no means an expert painter) is the little circles that you see on in the paint (looks almost like an orange peels texture). Someone said that it's on almost all the GM vehicles, and I saw a lot of it on everything on the lot. When I was looking for the SS, my brother was with me (he welds, paints, etc) and he kept on pointing it out to me. Even a Z06 they had in the showroom had orange peel on it. My brother thinks that it's because GM uses robots to paint the vehicles, but I haven't found any confirmation of that. Having the dealer wet sand and buff the truck sounds awesome, I'll have to see if the dealer here will do that. I don't notice it too much until when you look at the side of the truck at a reflection of something and see it's all obscured and pixelated almost. But, if they'll do it under warranty, then no difference! -Leupy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezel Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Hi guys, - The knocking sound at startup could be the infamous GM piston slap. - Fixed my own - passenger door rattle, wind noise around doors, wind noise pass rear window - I have a squealing alternator bearing too supraman said... 4)Every once in a while at starting at 5K I have a HUGE power loss! Do you mean the engine power drops at ~5000rpm? Does this happen from a dead stop? Or when you floor it and downshift from a roll? It could be torque reduction or the traction control system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSminneapolis Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 i talked to the body shop guy at the dealer i bought my truck at and he said that regarding the orange peel...they could sand and buff it out but i would have to pay a little bit - becuase you are supposed to get it done within six months of purchase...but he is willing to cut me a deal...so as soon as the snow is all gone i am going to get mine done...that and they are going to straighten the emblems out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraman Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hi guys,- The knocking sound at startup could be the infamous GM piston slap. - Fixed my own - passenger door rattle, wind noise around doors, wind noise pass rear window - I have a squealing alternator bearing too supraman said... 4)Every once in a while at starting at 5K I have a HUGE power loss! Do you mean the engine power drops at ~5000rpm? Does this happen from a dead stop? Or when you floor it and downshift from a roll? It could be torque reduction or the traction control system... From 5 to redline from a roll in any gear it feels like a 5000lb tralier is getting hooked up......still loud still reving, but feels like something is holding it back...no missing or knocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawk Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 SSminneapolis, Your emblem that isn’t straight, does it happen to be the passenger side door? Mine is off as well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSminneapolis Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 (edited) tailgate and drivers door...heck they might as well do the passenger door while they are at it... i think it is a product of a little to much molson ice on lunch break up at the plant.. Edited February 17, 2004 by SSminneapolis (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deebo Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 I'll drink to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Orange peel (and I'm by no means an expert painter) is the little circles that you see on in the paint (looks almost like an orange peels texture). Someone said that it's on almost all the GM vehicles, and I saw a lot of it on everything on the lot. Having the dealer wet sand and buff the truck sounds awesome, I'll have to see if the dealer here will do that. I don't notice it too much until when you look at the side of the truck at a reflection of something and see it's all obscured and pixelated almost. But, if they'll do it under warranty, then no difference! -Leupy Orange peel is an unavoidable side effect due to the method of application. Most of the time people don't worry about orange peel, it is just accepted. All show car paint jobs have it, they just perform another step before the finished product is revealed. After the paint has been baked on, in either a single stage or base coat application, the paint is color sanded with progressively finer grits of wetsanding. Usually starting with 400 and ending up with 1000 grit, sometimes 1500 grit, and then polished with a high speed (1700 to 2200 rpm) foam buffing wheel to produce the finish shine and texture, which I might offer is smoother than the ass of a newborn! In a basecoat paint job the color coats receive the sanding, and after the clear is shot and baked they are buffed. A real pro will take the time to 2000 grit wetsand the entire clear coat and polish it with a high speed buffer also. This is a very labor intensive and painstaking process and costs are extremely high. That's why most daily driver vehicles have to settle for orange peel in their paint. Simple huh? P. S. - Try a good hand washing first followed by the clay bar treatment then see if you still need buffing. My SS was covered with tree sap and fallout when new, I thought it was textured at the factory for a minute! Clay baring the truck took it all out. I have used all different kinds of clay bar, and the best is Clay Magic brand. The clay lube seems to work better with the clay. And most body shops in my area swear by it. SuperDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuggit Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hi guys, - Fixed my own - passenger door rattle, wind noise around doors, wind noise pass rear window Deezel, What did you do to fix your noisy passenger rear window? I just got mine back from the dealer (overnight stay) which they claim the entire window assembly was changed. NOT ! ! It still produces a hell of a lot of wind noise. I'm pretty pissed about it. Trying to calm down before I call them back tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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