Brandon27 Posted May 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Well I called the insurance company and I may have to file a claim with them stating my uncles shop did the damage and have his insurance cover the damage plus my deductible. The motor damage will have to go to small claims if he won't take responsibility. When I bought the car it definately didn't have a problem. looks like it is going to go a way I didn't want it to go. Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC3 Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Damn this whole thing sucks man. Sorry it's coming to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilveradoSSobsession Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Any time i take my SSS in i write down the mileage on paper and i make a point to do so in front of someone whos works at the place. I remember when I had my 99 GTP's tranny rebuilt, i had to bring it in for a checkup a week after i got it back, and the mechanic wanted to test drive it but didnt want me to go with him. I belive my exact words were "when Hell is frozen over" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Well I called the insurance company and I may have to file a claim with them stating my uncles shop did the damage and have his insurance cover the damage plus my deductible. The motor damage will have to go to small claims if he won't take responsibility. When I bought the car it definately didn't have a problem. looks like it is going to go a way I didn't want it to go. Brandon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, I was afraid that might happen. That is a real bad deal, but I would not cave in by any means. I did not mention insurance yesterday because I was not sure if you had comp/collision, but if you do I would leverage the insurance company HARD. Reason why, if your insurance company gets the muffler shop to pay for repairs to your car you can introduce this fact at your small claims appearance and a judgement in your favor is a slam-dunk, because both body damage and engine damage happened at the same time but were independent of each other. And include a sexy picture of your car, the judge will see 'joyride' written all over it. And judges HATE vandals. Mr. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon27 Posted May 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Well I am going to give him one shot this afternoon to take responsibilty for the morons that he has working there. If he doesn't want to, then I have no other choice but to get the insurance company and the courts involved. Thanks Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_a_n_payne Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 And what do you do for a living, P? Next time something goes wrong for me, Im coming to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 And what do you do for a living, P? Next time something goes wrong for me, Im coming to you! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I make OTHER people lots and lots of money! Why I can't do that for myself?? My resume? I create enterprise-level software systems; prior to being half-self-employed I did a lot of the same for both Dell and Microsoft. At present my father and I have an operation specializing in designing and implementing information technology in $35-100M companies, from breaking ground to custom end-user applications as well as one-off/proprietary systems; we are also well versed at the politics of corporate acquisition/takeover. I guess from that background I have learned how to effectively deal with *bad* people, and I mean some scary bad people. I was blessed with a talent for technology but not so many political skills and I've been taken for advantage by several opportunists pretty bad over the years, I got really eaten up at times but I've been able to come back and win the corporate shootouts and learn my lessons. I try not to tell others what to do with their lives but am more than happy to share how I've f-d up! Mr. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Well I am going to give him one shot this afternoon to take responsibilty for the morons that he has working there. If he doesn't want to, then I have no other choice but to get the insurance company and the courts involved.Thanks Brandon That's smart, you understand that you can't make *anyone* do *anything* in life, not really; the trick is making your uncle WANT to pay for damages, it has to appeal to him, he has to believe that it is in his best interest to do so. He may not realize but you really do have him by the balls (you already know it), this is because dealing with family is a double-edged sword you can take advantage of, and this is how I would do it - Now, a disclaimer here, I am not telling you how to live your life, BUT if I were in your shoes this is what I would tell him: In very low firm tones I would tell him that it is in his best interest to pay for the damages, if he does this he comes out a winner and this is the only way he is going to keep his business from taking a huge hickey; if he doesn't take responsibiliity for what happens at this business then no matter what road this story takes the outcome is going to be bad for business and in this case bad for him personally (because you're family). So, you repeat to him again (calmly) MY car got damaged in YOUR care, and someone WILL be held responsible for it. Explain that even though he may dream he is going to get off on having to pay for body work that engine is lunched and his company IS ultimately responsible for it. And then I would employ some silence and see just exactly what kind of material he's made of; he'll either pay ON THE SPOT, or he'll tell you (essentially) go to hell, or he'll try to stall. Do not accept a promise of payment unless it is IN WRITING. If he does anything other than pay right there than you tell him "this is not right - and you've disrespected me AND you've wasted my time" and leave. Food for thought. Let us know what happens... Mr. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBlueSS Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I would follow P's advice. Sounds like he speaks from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSS Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Well I am going to give him one shot this afternoon to take responsibilty for the morons that he has working there. If he doesn't want to, then I have no other choice but to get the insurance company and the courts involved.Thanks Brandon That's smart, you understand that you can't make *anyone* do *anything* in life, not really; the trick is making your uncle WANT to pay for damages, it has to appeal to him, he has to believe that it is in his best interest to do so. He may not realize but you really do have him by the balls (you already know it), this is because dealing with family is a double-edged sword you can take advantage of, and this is how I would do it - Now, a disclaimer here, I am not telling you how to live your life, BUT if I were in your shoes this is what I would tell him: In very low firm tones I would tell him that it is in his best interest to pay for the damages, if he does this he comes out a winner and this is the only way he is going to keep his business from taking a huge hickey; if he doesn't take responsibiliity for what happens at this business then no matter what road this story takes the outcome is going to be bad for business and in this case bad for him personally (because you're family). So, you repeat to him again (calmly) MY car got damaged in YOUR care, and someone WILL be held responsible for it. Explain that even though he may dream he is going to get off on having to pay for body work that engine is lunched and his company IS ultimately responsible for it. And then I would employ some silence and see just exactly what kind of material he's made of; he'll either pay ON THE SPOT, or he'll tell you (essentially) go to hell, or he'll try to stall. Do not accept a promise of payment unless it is IN WRITING. If he does anything other than pay right there than you tell him "this is not right - and you've disrespected me AND you've wasted my time" and leave. Food for thought. Let us know what happens... Mr. P. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The most important part of this is coming across with conviction. If he thinks you are serious and will take action if he doesn't step up, if there is any chance he will come through, it will be at that time. If he doesn't, then he never will, and you can proceed with assurance that you gave him a chance to come clean. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon27 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I let him think it out this past weekend and he ended up calling my father and telling him that he wanted to talk to the guys at the shop and find out what really happened. My dad said he thinks my uncle is gonna take responsibility for the motor. I will probably do the cosmetic fixing with my dad. We will see. Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC3 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Well that's some good news.. Why not both the engine and the cosmetic stuff? I thought it was assumed that the engine damage and the cosmetic damage took place in the same 'joy ride'...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon27 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 My dad thinks just going after the motor stuff is enough. My dad and I can fix the nose easily without having to pay for anything. I am mostly worried about the motor at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Things sound like they are looking up, not going completely your way but I would take the situation just like you have. It sucks you have to do a little front-end body work, but as long as it is superficial and the shop replaces the motor I'd just call it a bad hit and move on. But don't budge any more, you are being generous enough taking the body work onto yourself. And don't let them stall on that engine, it is completely reasonable to expect them to have some kind of workable plan/remedy in the next few days. Don't be an a-hole but keep 'em at it and make sure they understand that you and your car are a problem that will not just go away. Mr. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon27 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 A buddy of mine and his dad are going to take the motor out June 1st. They are just going to drop the front cradle out the bottom. I am then going to take it to a shop my uncles business uses. They do good work. I am also just thinking of going naturally aspirated and selling the blower. Might just go with cam/rockers/ instead. More reliable in my opinion on these lt1 motors. Maybe people won't joyride in it without the blower:) I am definately not going to go away until this is taken care of. I will keep coming with the updates. You guys really helped out alot, when it is family it is just hard to figure out how hard to push.. Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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